to convince people to give thanks to obama for obama care. >> now, having a conversation about getting your family insured is really propaganda, joe. i mean -- >> oh, yeah. >> your family insured is ruining your holiday? can you believe this stuff, joe? >> no. you know, rush limbaugh's turkey is cooked and just -- somebody just needs to stuff him and put him away. look. the reality is this. there is really no complaint about the product. let's go back. no one is complaining. that list of things you indicated and showed, no one is complaining about the product. now, there were complaints about how the delivery system was flawed, but the product is solid. number two, i would say to every mother and our adult children, they always listen to mom. dads don't count. so moms at the dinner table, you find out is that adult child covered and convince them, share with them what you would have done if you would have had obama care if it had been available when you were in your 20s. and that's what will sell it. >> and by the way, i'm sure, joe means that he's a political turkey that you want poli